Diesel Bro's: Smoked Out

"Lets Just Drive" (lets-just-drive)
12/15/2013 at 21:10 • Filed to: None

This is, in my opinion, completely inexcusable.

What do you think, Oppo?

For me, it goes like this - there's nothing inherently wrong with a diesel work truck. The Cummin's is a good engine for heavy lifting and that is, to my mind, its entire and only purpose. However; when a Bro gets his hands on a diesel and turns it into a lifted street queen sheerly to broadcast their bruh-status, it's only a matter of time before the "smoke out" behavior overtakes their already diminished sense of social responsibility.

For me, it results in this - I will call the cops as it's illegal here, I will follow you all the way home and I will park behind your bro truck, snapping pictures and waiting for the police to arrive. If I have the camera handy, I'll record the asinine behavior and share it across social media with license and location information. Furthermore, I'm Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino , "Ever notice how you come across somebody once in a while you shouldn't have fucked with? That's me." I don't take abuses of social obligation well and tend to think that if I can get involved, even at my own risk, I may well save someone from having to endure the same in the future. Every time I see one of these video's where the people getting "smoked out" just grin an bear it, I die a little inside. If we, those who are able, do not take it upon ourselves to react to social injustice then, I tend to believe, others who aren't able will be the victims of this kind of asshat behavior (also, I'm trained).

How about you?

PS, I bring this up as, while the wife and I were out today, I saw this taking place behind me in traffic and was not, sadly, able to intervene. I feel guilty about that.

DISCUSSION (45)

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > Lets Just Drive
12/15/2013 at 21:16

I hate the bro diesels.

They lose HP when they do that too....I've seen properly tuned diesels that smoke a little off the line and thats it.

Its so stupid, I threw a wrench through a window after they smoked my car out. I was pissed.

Casper > Lets Just Drive
12/15/2013 at 21:19

You understand that in many states it may not actually be illegal right? For instance the laws for many states have a specific number of seconds and a specific density of visual obstruction an emission must last before it's illegal... and even then, the situation you would be creating by following them would be bordering on much more illegal.

These douche nozzles being stupid does not suddenly validate other idiot behavior on your part. Stalking, menacing, harassment, instigation, etc, are all things they could charge you with if you do what you suggest incorrectly even insignificantly. As far as the law is concerned, this infraction would rank somewhere around hearing someones subs... and as such is about as low of a violation as you can get on the ladder, making you unable to use the citizen's arrest argument.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Lets Just Drive
12/15/2013 at 21:19

The fact that the vehicle is not a lifted bro truck is interesting.

Im not down for rolling coal in cities and stuff but i have some "redneck" friends and out in the country we will roal coal for fun while off-roading of something.

And i want to say that is some pussy smoke. A TDI could roll more coal than that.

puddler > Lets Just Drive
12/15/2013 at 21:20

the last dude that did that to me while i was riding my bike got a handful of rocks chunked at his newwish bro'd 2500. and i see that truck from time to time...wonder what he'd think if i stole the lugs from one of his wheels...

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Lets Just Drive
12/15/2013 at 21:22

Fuck Diesel Bros. I have to go for emissions every year and "you" think you can drive around a be a douche.

Casper > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
12/15/2013 at 21:26

The vehicle is just running rich... if you really want to, you can do the same thing, then turn it back down when you go in for emissions testing. Unfortunately, unless you are driving a diesel vehicle, you will probably cause your self a lot of problems. From the looks of this video all they are doing is backing way off the throttle and them hammering it to go wide open, making the system go as rich as it can before gaining the revs to really start burning efficiently again.

Agrajag > Lets Just Drive
12/15/2013 at 21:31

Kinja'd!!!

I'd go, Batman out of the smoke, on them

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > Casper
12/15/2013 at 21:32

Couldn't agree more. I think your stalkerish busybody actions are much worse than anyone rolling coal.

LongTravel > Lets Just Drive
12/15/2013 at 21:38

I can understand your stance on smoke shows but the counterpoint I'd offer would be the idea that the "Bro'd" diesel truck is no different than the Riced Civic is no different than the Mulleted Corvette is no different than a 458 with with a competition exhaust system. All of them are modified vehicles with varying modifications for performance/style that include aftermarket exhaust systems that increase pollution both in terms of air quality and noise levels. Sure it's easy to single out the diesel guys because that pollution is visible but is that difference enough to make public shaming and calling the cops the only logical conclusion?

I see so much hate on this site for drivers of big diesel trucks but in so many ways they are enthusiasts just like us. I mean really what's more Jalop than taking a mudane utilitarian vehicle and turning it into a performance monster (see CTS-V Wagon, Volvo R wagons, Audi RS wagons, etc) Even though there are Dbaggers among them it's not like there aren't just as many of them on our side of the aisle (see guy who does burnouts leaving car shows, street drifters, guys with steering wheels out windows, etc).

I'm not advocating that everybody has to love big diesel trucks but I do think that it's somewhat backwards to treat them like some assholes only club that doesn't deserve any respect.

Burrito de EJ25 > LongTravel
12/15/2013 at 21:56

Because diesel smells like shit. That's why they don't get my respect.

Burrito de EJ25 > Lets Just Drive
12/15/2013 at 21:58

I wonder if you can charge someone with assault if they do this to you.

It's all fun and games until they smoke out an asthmatic.

Lets Just Drive > Casper
12/15/2013 at 22:08

As I don't live in the States, or any State within the Union, I cannot comment on individual states laws. I can, however, speak to the legality of this activity in the Province in which I reside.

And I understand the point which you are trying to make in regards to stalking/following/tracking and I'd be inclined to agree if not for the clause, as offered, that this would follow my placing a call to the authorities. Were the dispatcher or 9-1-1 operator to direct me to disengage, I would do so. However, there is absolutely nothing illegal about me utilizing the public roads to go wherever I want barring a restraining order or the like. Private property laws apply, of course, as do those associated with creating an obstruction or unsafe conditions in traffic and/or on public roads.

I understand, from your reply, that your reaction would differ from my own and seems to be predicated on the legality of such a reaction given your individual location. That said, in some States there is either pending or ratified legislation which describes this action of "rolling coal" as assault, so it really depends on where you live.

I appreciate your input.

Lets Just Drive > Casper
12/15/2013 at 22:09

The key difference, at least to my mind, is that one can be intentional while the other may not.

Lets Just Drive > TheD0k_2many toys 2little time
12/15/2013 at 22:11

Good point. If I may counter, the video was meant only as an example of being an intentional douchebag. These guys set out to smoke people out. I have almost no problem with work trucks, working hard, that may belch smoke - granted, there's a good argument for maintaining your equipment but that has to be paired with the reality of expense and cost.

Lets Just Drive > Agrajag
12/15/2013 at 22:12

Vigilante justice is the best kind of justice, amiright?

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Lets Just Drive
12/15/2013 at 22:13

Correct.

Lets Just Drive > Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT
12/15/2013 at 22:13

If someone rolls up beside you and horks a big loogie into your car, flicks their cigarette butt into your cabin or dumps their car-load of McDonalds bags in your vehicle it's a lot different.

The key issue here, at lest in my opinion, is intent. These guys who get a kick out of rolling coal are no better than or the same as any of the putrid examples I offered above.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Burrito de EJ25
12/15/2013 at 22:14

Diesel smell fucking great! What are you smoking? :]

Lets Just Drive > Burrito de EJ25
12/15/2013 at 22:15

Where I live? Yes.

It's the same as a mischief charge, but the real asset here is that it gives law enforcement an excuse and reason to take a good look at the driver, the vehicle and even passengers. Typically these are the guys who have a few matters outstanding, from warrants to tickets to improperly adjusted headlamps etc etc.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT
12/15/2013 at 22:17

I beg to differ.

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > Lets Just Drive
12/15/2013 at 22:18

I could not agree more.

Tiny dicks.

Smaller brains.

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > TheD0k_2many toys 2little time
12/15/2013 at 22:18

I know of a few 1500+wtq trucks that smoke on launch and that is it.

Lets Just Drive > LongTravel
12/15/2013 at 22:19

I'm right there with you, Long.

They are no better then anyone else who ignores the welfare of others in pursuit of their own ambitions. From unreasonably loud exhausts through to oil burning beaters, these Coal Burners are in the same camp but there is a difference... at least to my mind. That difference comes down to intention; are you setting out to be a prick and fuck people over or is it perhaps something more innocent?

I've been smoked out by diesel cube trucks, hauling goods from A to B and while it bothered me, it wasn't on the level of someone throwing their cigarette butt into my car on purpose which, again to my mind, is about on par with rolling coal.

It's why I don't hate lifted trucks; intention. It's why I do hate lifted trucks that go around smoking people out because fuck you brah!

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Lets Just Drive
12/15/2013 at 22:19

Yea when you smoke people on purpose its retarted but when im out wheeling and someone smokes out the forrest im cool with that lol

Lets Just Drive > Burrito de EJ25
12/15/2013 at 22:19

Good point!

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT
12/15/2013 at 22:20

Im just saying when a truck smokes a lot doesn't mean it doesn't make power. This vid proves this.

Lets Just Drive > puddler
12/15/2013 at 22:21

He'd probably think you wronged him. He probably doesn't even think he fucked you over because it was just a puff of smoke. That's the nature of this kind of person, they don't see both or all sides of an issue - they view everything from their singular perspective and lack the ability to step outside their own interests in order to consider the greater good.

I wouldn't advocate what you're suggesting, however; as two wrongs almost never make a right.

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > TheD0k_2many toys 2little time
12/15/2013 at 22:23

Around here all the trucks that smoke are just dumping fuel.
Those are professional trucks.

Lets Just Drive > Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT
12/15/2013 at 22:24

I tend to agree, though would add that not every guy in a lifted truck with a Cummins is out to be a bro-douche but that the few who are ruin it for everyone.

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > Lets Just Drive
12/15/2013 at 22:25

I know a few good guys with Turbo Diesel trucks.

My old boss for one.

A few kids I hung out with.

But there are those who are like "GOTTA ROLL COAL EVERYWHERE CAUSE I'M FUCKING AWESOME!"

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT
12/15/2013 at 22:33

You do realize that more fuel=more power.

The more boom you can shove in a cylinder the more push you get on the tires.

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > TheD0k_2many toys 2little time
12/15/2013 at 22:35

The more fuel more power doesn't always work.

You cna run soo rich you lose power. You have to find the good mix of air and fuel

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT
12/15/2013 at 22:48

Yes but with diesel engines the more fuel you put in the more the turbocharger pushes air in making more power. You can burn rich easier on N/A vehicle than something that is turbocharged. That is the point of forced aspiration to allow you to shove as much fuel in as you can because the turbo/supercharger will push more air in.

Lets just agree to disagree :]

Sorry if i came off as a jerk.

Birddog > Lets Just Drive
12/15/2013 at 22:49

Your list of potential actions will probably net you a restraining order and Court ordered counseling. Not the fuzzy sense of self satisfaction and social triumph that you were expecting.

These guys are no worse than the jackass in a fart canned import, the "gangsta" rolling on 30s , any asshole that decides to throttle it out of a car show in a car they have no business driving or the 2 wheeled terrorists that seem to populate every highway in the warm months.

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > TheD0k_2many toys 2little time
12/15/2013 at 22:50

It's cool
I don't mind going back and forth with someone who is educated haa

Its a change xD

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT
12/15/2013 at 22:51

Haahahah yea better than the trolls. Luckily there are not many here as opposed to the FP.

Agrajag > Lets Just Drive
12/15/2013 at 22:53

It's the only justice. Besides legal justice.

Lets Just Drive > Birddog
12/15/2013 at 23:01

Perhaps that would be the result in your local area. It would not be in mine.

I've explained that in depth in another reply.

Also, yes they are.

Burrito de EJ25 > TheD0k_2many toys 2little time
12/16/2013 at 00:07

Not diesel, evidently.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Burrito de EJ25
12/16/2013 at 00:28

Yea personally i love the smell of engines either gas or diesel.

puddler > Lets Just Drive
12/16/2013 at 03:11

thats half the reason i let it go. this town doesn't have half the DB population, but some farm kids have bro trucks, too.

but lessons not learned in blood are soon forgotten.

Philbert/Phartnagle > Lets Just Drive
12/17/2013 at 15:22

While I in no way condone their actions and abhor the stupidity of them, you have the wrong attitude to take in dealing with this or really any other perceived outside "threat".

It is undeniably rash to think that you are the baddest mutherfucker on the planet or even in your area and base your actions on that thought. Think about it, if you live in a "stand your ground" state you could end up lying dead next to one of these vehicles and your killer could get off scot free because you "attacked" him or he perceived you as a lethal threat to his life.

Just stay in your vehicle or keep your distance from the offender(s), take pics or video and report them to the Police. That way you will be safer and are less likely to get drawn into a confrontation that may have dire consequences for either or both parties in the end.

Lets Just Drive > Philbert/Phartnagle
12/17/2013 at 15:32

Given that I don't live in a 'State at all, let's leave aside the "stand your ground" assumption and instead look at what I've actually suggested.

1.) Phoning the police.

2.) Maintaining visual contact with the vehicle/occupants.

3.) Ensure that this illegal activity is discouraged by the proper authorities.

Sure, maybe I get angry and throw all that crap out the window but, and let's be honest, that's exactly what this sort of activity is looking for; a reaction. So why not give it to them, and with a vengeance?

Philbert/Phartnagle > Lets Just Drive
12/17/2013 at 15:47

My bad, I did not read and comprehend as well as I should have. :embarrassed:

Post retracted and I apologize for the mistaken first impression.

I just got the initial impression that you might be inclined to do something rash and was trying to be helpful and convince you to stay out of harms way.

Lets Just Drive > Philbert/Phartnagle
12/17/2013 at 18:57

I appreciate that and apologize also.

I was in a mood this morning and I may have let it spill into the tone of my reply.

We're all good, friend.